Giving a woman an orgasm

topic posted Mon, January 7, 2008 - 5:55 PM by  Alan
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  • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

    Sun, January 13, 2008 - 1:17 PM
    Quoting the article...

    >"Too much alcohol can dry up the vaginal secretions and reduce the blood flow to the sex organs. "

    Never heard that before. You?
    • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

      Wed, January 16, 2008 - 5:19 PM
      yeah and really, alcohol ruins everything
      • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

        Fri, January 25, 2008 - 1:17 AM
        I thought everyone knew that.

        Alcohol lowers inhibitions and reduces the bodies response capabilities all around. It's good if you're trying to seduce someone who doesn't initially want to be seduced by you - or is nervous - but it's a depressant on the body.
      • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

        Fri, January 25, 2008 - 2:03 PM
        Well, yeh, alcohol can ruin potential in several ways, but I never heard specifically that it "dries" a woman out.
        • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

          Sat, January 26, 2008 - 9:55 PM
          It dehydrates you. It's actually why you end up with hang overs too. If the girl does drink so much she's dry, she'll probably be ready to pass out soon any way. Just hand her a bottle of water an aspirin, make sure she drinks the water, and pet her until she goes to sleep and promise that once she wakes up you'd be up for more. It works for me every time. Being in both the drunk and the instigator side of things.
          • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

            Mon, January 28, 2008 - 8:14 PM
            It's why god gave us Advil and Ky lube my children.
            Alcohol, to a point, lubricates the inhibitions, the poet, his muse, as well as the sex drive.
            Drink my darlings and enjoy.
            Why did god give man whiskey? To keep the Irish (Celtics) from taking over the world. (and stealing the mortals women in the process).
            Yes I am Celtic and I have been drinking.

            Kisses for the ladies.

            Spark
            • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

              Wed, April 16, 2008 - 11:20 AM
              OK, I know this isn't really topic related but neither Advil (Ibuprofen) or Tylenol (acetaminophen) combine terribly well with alcohol.
              www.healthcentral.com/static/...l-02.pdf

              If you need to take them it's best to wait until the next morning. If you want something to help with tomorrow's hangover give them water and a multivitamin (I advise the adult chewable ones because they are usually easier on the stomach).
              • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

                Fri, April 18, 2008 - 2:00 PM
                ibuprofen and naproxen sodium both elevate blood pressure ... alcohol metabolization also does this ... beware...
                straight aspirin/salicylate is the best thing to take at bedtime after alcohol/next day ...
            • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

              Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:16 PM
              <It's why god gave us Advil and Ky lube my children.
              Alcohol, to a point, lubricates the inhibitions, the poet, his muse, as well as the sex drive.
              Drink my darlings and enjoy.
              Why did god give man whiskey? To keep the Irish (Celtics) from taking over the world. (and stealing the mortals women in the process).
              Yes I am Celtic and I have been drinking.

              Kisses for the ladies.

              Spark >

              lmao - "my children" & "drink my darlings" - nice Spark......I tend to agree :)
  • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

    Sat, April 19, 2008 - 12:54 PM
    I have to admit to being continually surprised to hear that many women (or even, according to some studies, the majority of women) have difficulty achieving orgasm. I guess I tend to think that most women are like me, and can climax easily and more than once, even during a quickie, without foreplay or clitoral stimulation.

    Maybe I need more female lovers, to convince me that this is a real problem...
    • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

      Sat, April 19, 2008 - 4:18 PM
      Man that would be such a sacrifice.

      Way to take one for the team *snicker*
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        Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

        Tue, May 6, 2008 - 4:23 PM
        About the alcohol thing drying up women; I disagree.
        My wife has been gushing up a storm lately and she had her fill of alcohol at the time.
        If it dries her up, then I will have to start bringing her to the fire department to assist them for when she isn't drinking, as she could put out a small fire when drinking alcohol.
        I try not to take too much seriously on 'studies', as they tend to be biased on what the research people are trying to prove and will prove at all costs to get their grants.
        Read to many of these studies and you might become a self fulfilling prophecy, proving their case, as your mind buys into the lie.
        Betcha.....
        thought there was concrete proof for these studies
        • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

          Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:13 PM
          You're wife is an exception to the rule. Most women do indeed dry up after consuming a large amount of alcohol. Alcohol dehydrates you as it uses up large amounts of water to process alcohol through your system. This dehydration is a large contributer to hang-overs. Women can also suffer from erectile dysfunction if they have been drinking to excess and many women will not get very wet, or achieve orgasm, if their clitoris never becomes engorged. Does every woman have this problem? No. Enough women do experience this that it is a valid thing to consider however.

          And shame on you for tisking us for listening to studies while you generalize one experience and use one woman as the basis for rejecting an established medical side-effect. No, this article was not terribly scientific in its presentation, but a little research quickly reveals that at least the portion about alcohol is readily substantiated.
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            Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

            Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:44 PM
            "And shame on you for tisking us for listening to studies while you generalize one experience and use one woman as the basis for rejecting an established medical side-effect. No, this article was not terribly scientific in its presentation, but a little research quickly reveals that at least the portion about alcohol is readily substantiated."
            This isn't a one experience thing, Myriad. I just didn't think I needed to act like a braggart, as one example seemed sufficient.

            "This dehydration is a large contributer to hang-overs."
            True, but not if one keeps water or Gatorade going throughout to cut down on the dehydration factor, along with having fluids sitting beside the bed to replenish. Alcohol doesn't have to make one completely dehydrated. A person can keep themself replenished, or not get so inebriated that they suffer hangovers.
            "Women can also suffer from erectile dysfunction"
            Are you referring to the clit not swelling, as other than that, I can't think of E.D. with a woman. Again, I haven't ever seen that one happen with a woman due to alcohol. I'll assume it happens due to a choice of partners or lack of true desire at the moment.

            " if they have been drinking to excess and many women will not get very wet, or achieve orgasm,"
            Okay, I have met one woman who I couldn't get off because she was too drunk. Other than that, the majority of my sex life hasn't had a woman not have an orgasm, unless one or both of us wasn't getting into it and were just going through the motions.
            No, it isn't due to few partners in my life, as I used to be manmeat for the women to use at their whim.
            No longer that way. Just pointing that out, as I am far from inexperienced with women, whether they are drinking or not.
            Betcha
            ......
            • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

              Wed, May 7, 2008 - 12:19 AM
              You said that your wife still gets very wet while under the influence of substantial amounts of alcohol. Your wife is one person, one experience, in a sea of women who do not necessarily react as she does. And you would not be bragging. Whether she can get wet under the influence of alcohol or not is, to be blunt, more an accomplishment of her biology than it is your accomplishment.

              Yes, I am referring to an inability to maintain a clitoral erection. This has jack-all to do with the partner. Alcohol lowers your blood pressure and just as many men can't stay hard when they've had too much to drink so it is with women.

              If you are as experienced as you say (and we're assuming you aren't dating teetotalers) and you have only experienced one woman who did not orgasm for you under the influence then, I am sorry to say, somebody's been faking it. It is too common of a problem for you to have never slept with a woman who experienced this difficultly. I am willing to believe you didn't notice it, but not that it has never happened.
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                Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

                Wed, May 7, 2008 - 2:28 AM
                "Whether she can get wet under the influence of alcohol or not is, to be blunt, more an accomplishment of her biology than it is your accomplishment. "
                Untrue, as many women you have to work past all the defenses that they have created in their head around the 'evilness' of sex.
                You aren't going to down my ability to pleasure my parter or any of my partners of the past. This game may work for you with others, as I see that you like to down people on a regular basis*Insecurity in one's self, a need to dominate, or a combination of both*, but that doesn't fly with me.

                "This has jack-all to do with the partner."
                It's a turn on factor and has much to do with the partner. That 'tisk-tisk' is on you for that one.

                "Alcohol lowers your blood pressure and just as many men can't stay hard when they've had too much to drink so it is with women. "
                There are counter-balances for whether one's blood pressure is running too high or too low. If it's that important to you, educate yourself on what those things are than making alcohol the *evil*, as so many people have blamed the same things on tobacco as a catch-all for what they are too lazy to learn the truth about.

                "If you are as experienced as you say*and we're assuming you aren't dating teetotalers* and you have only experienced one woman who did not orgasm for you under the influence then, I am sorry to say, somebody's been faking it."
                Some woman faked it on me in my life?
                Oh my gawd. I am so not a man anymore.
                I've faked it before and that is MUCH harder to do.
                I know when a woman has an orgasm, for the most part and I have had my share of gushers and squirters. Sorry, that isn't the same thing to fake as the woman who gives fake contractions.
                I take it you are one of those people that thinks you can emasculate a person by trying to make them feel insecure.
                I haven't had much experience with your teetotalers. As I said, I was manmeat for quite awhile and had sex with many based on word of mouth to people they knew and talked me up to.
                Do I think I am the best ever? No, as there is someone always either better than you, or does things better for another, in some way.
                The same is true about everything in life.
                Keep that in mind as your next partner may be envisioning some sex they had that puts what you do to shame.
                I don't strive for perfection, as it is an impossibility.
                If I and my partner or partners*Only one now and going to keep it that way* are happy with the end result, then all is good. If not, than maybe some more play and/or a better experience next time.
                If you are one of those people that thinks they can determine how could a lover is in one try*This goes for anyone*, then you are missing out on much. Sexual quality between lovers takes 3-5 separate times to determine if it is good.
                Want to know what really gives a woman a good orgasm?
                Free their mind of all the b.s. that has gathered up over the years; all the anger, all the lies of what is good/bad, all the neglect that they felt from others and take the time to both explore their body, their mind and ASK questions about what gets them turned on, gets them off, what you can do to give them the best pleasure possible. After they are at the point of where they want to be; take them beyond that point.
                Orgasms aren't a complicated thing, unless you make them be.
                Why do women loosen up with alcohol or other substances?
                Because it gives them either an excuse to be who they desire to be, or it shuts out their brain that is beating the crap out of them enough to enjoy the moment.
                The same is true for men.
                Betcha.....
                expected a much shorter post and a bunch of insecurities
                ......nope.

              • Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

                Wed, May 7, 2008 - 5:05 AM
                correction : alcohol RAISES blood pressure significantly, and is part of why a guy can't get it up .......
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                  Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

                  Wed, May 7, 2008 - 9:51 AM
                  synerguy,
                  I was wondering on that one, which is why I wrote the part
                  'There are counter-balances for whether one's blood pressure is running too high or too low.'
                  It does make for a strange deal in itself.
                  Alcohol is supposed to be a depressant yet it bumps up ones pressure.
                  So strange.
                  Odd random thought number two for today.
                  Betcha
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                    Re: Giving a woman an orgasm

                    Wed, May 7, 2008 - 2:17 PM
                    Yes, you can compensate for the effects of alcohol. That does not mean that it doesn't have adverse effects on the woman's biology, and on yours. You also cannot counteract the effects of alcohol on the pituitary gland and hypothalamus without taking hormone supplements.

                    Yes, alcohol raises blood pressure. I got my progression switched. Your blood pressure raises until you reach heavy intoxication where a person may experience a slowed heart rate leading to a sudden and dangerous drop in blood pressure. This typically occurs about the time the intoxicated individual passes out and can cause death. However, while alcohol increases blood flow to your skin and stomach it also decreases blood flow to your muscles.

                    I did expect a shorter post, but that is because I expected much fewer insecurities. My mistake.

                    For all of you folks reading this exchange I suggest not listening to either of us. I have provided several links which can give you a much more thorough and detailed education on how alcohol affects the body and why it influences human sexuality:
                    sexuality.about.com/od/femal...women.htm
                    recipes.howstuffworks.com/alcohol10.htm
                    www.oregoncounseling.org/Artic...Fx.htm
                    www.rupissed.com/thebody.html
                    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcohol_poisoning

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