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Rape Fantasy

topic posted Thu, October 26, 2006 - 12:23 PM by 
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I know this is not for everyone of course but it does seem to be common or more common than one might think. I know more than one woman who enjoys this sort of fantasy/roleplay so if this is something you enjoy or something you have played with your partner - what made it work well, what didn't work? Were you just forceful and take her while you were in bed? sneak up behind her from another room? sneak into her place one evening unannounced, perhaps while she was sleeping? Abduct her from the street? there are so many possibilities & I have heard of many with either good or bad results, tried a few myself with differing results with different partners
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    I would love to hear your experiences with it good & bad because it is something I have been interested in. Was negotiating a scene with a partner but it never came about. I think there has to be a lot of trust and all limits must be discussed, spelled out specifically, and adhered to. I think the surprise element is what would make it different than simply forcing yourself on your partner and/or rough sex in general, but that can be tricky to work out. I love the public abduction thing but boy if someone observes you it can get you in trouble where you might be explaining yourself to Mr. Officer while in handcuffs =]
    • Well I must admit that I have been fortunate in having good experiences with the fantasy play thus far, a large part of the play though is really dictated on the partner, what she wants & what she feels comfortable with. I had one partner who liked to go the whole route, get dressed up and meet somewhere, flirt, lure her back to my place and then get forceful. One time she did the knock on the front door as a saleslady and I let her in and then turned mean. For me, I prefer not to have to use tools in this sort of play or minimal tools if absolutely necessary. I like to be able to restrain, push, pull and throw the girl around with my bare hands rather than relying upon bondage. Being a fan of knives and edgeplay I enjoy the spreading of my partners legs with my own, reaching down and slicing off her underwear, depending on her clothes and how attached she is to them I may slice them all off of her, for those who are also into the edge play I will use the knife to heighten the moment, teasing & scaring. If we are fluid bonded I may even push it further depending on the mood. In the past whenever I have played out this fantasy with someone it has been a partner that I have been fluid bonded with so the penetration was never an issue, I have been playing with this in the back of my mind trying to think of a good and fun way to play out this fantasy without ropes or handcuffs and yet without losing any momentum slip on protection, I havent really come up with anything tremendous although in writing this response to you Runs it has just occured to me that perhaps might be one more place to use edgeplay, force my partner to handle me, put on the condom - though open to other ideas and suggestions. The knife is a great tool but I dont want the scene to be completely dependent upon it. Breathe play is another option here I suppose, depending on the partner and the positions.
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        yeah, starting in a bar or something would be cool. liek the chance meeting and he follows her home, forcing his way in. yeah the knife would be cool and very edgy. cutting or even tearing the clothes away would be great. If you are verbally degrading your partner some type of verbiage about her being a dirty slut while donning the condom might be good and make it work within the scene. I agree that bondage prolly is too involved here, except maybe for cuffs becasue those can be placed fairly quickly while the struggle ensues. what about slapping or punching?
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        oh and yeah, breath play and/or choking would also be a good element.
        • slapping and punching are good if my partner is into them, very fond of those especially after Master Hines class on those areas.
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            Oooo... nice discussion RunsWScissors and Simon... nice to read frank and open discussion about a potentially controversial topic. And talking about the actual logistics is very helpful.
            And Simon, yes Master Hines' resistance segment of his class was wonderful.
  • i have that fantasy being a woman, but I DONT WANT TO BE RAPED! oh no no no no no, but i think its more of the being helpless, dominated, and for the "rapist" being extremely sexually taken with me. the rough sex, bondange, knife/gun props is all very intense... also putting up somewhat of a "fight" is sexually arousing for myself and alot of other women (being so desired that he wont take no for an answer). theres alot of factors that play into it, but honestly if thats not on her fantasy list i wouldnt touch that subject again with a 10 ft. pole simply b/c ALOT of women have serious issues with that. if you bring it up... ask how she feels about being sexually dominated (lotsa chicks love it)... if shes into it then be like, "hey the rape scenario could be fun". that way she wont think youre some psycho with underlying rapist tendancies but that you simply enjoy occasional aggressive sex.
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      I know of at least three women who've been raped; one was gang - raped and left badly beaten, traumatised, multiply infected and pregnant. I don't find this sort of thing at all funny, let alone arousing. I know some women do; then again, this sort of thing is (usually) carried out with someone the woman trusts implicitly.
      If this is your bag, then fine. Please keep it under wraps. Someone on here might get the wrong ideas from this information. Yeah, I'm clucking away like an old mother hen; then again, I've been the "responsible adult" who's had to deal with the aftermath of such an ordeal. It ain't funny, folks...............
      • Achriman,
        I don't think anyone is treating it as a joke. From my perspective it looks like this discussion is being treated with the respect and consideration that is appropriate to such an edgy and taboo-type subject.

        Everyone in this Tribe (I'm guessing) is well familiar with the seriousness of rape. It does not look like it's being treated lightly here.

        Just my humble opinion.
        Angel
      • Things aren't always so black and white. I myself have been raped multiple times, from strangers to first dates to my own loving but temporarily grief mad partner. I've even written about my own culpability on one such occasion:

        www.helium.com/tm/206542/...sed-trusted

        All that being said, however, I do still heartily enjoy my rape fantasies. I can imagine being gang raped by hundreds of faceless strangers or just one man in the dark with a knife and have no inner conflict. There is a clear line between fantasy and reality. Fantasy rape = hot. Real rape = tragedy. Play rape = scorching hot. The difference is consent.

        Just to be clear, the memories of my actual rapes do *not* turn me on but the idea of acting out such a primal scene with someone I trust, now, that is a different story altogether! The brain has no problem differentiating between the two scenarios, although one must be careful to avoid certain triggers. Even then, setting off triggers accidentally can sometimes be quite therapeutic.

        For example, about a month ago, after extensive foreplay, I was unbelievably tight when my lover finally went to put his cock in. I said so, gasped, and told him it felt like the first time. He ran with it, talking to me, telling me how beautiful I was, what a sweet little girl I was, how he was gonna take care of me, and so on. I flashed back to my actual first time, and all the other terrible first times, and I just started fucking bawling. I held him tight and pulled him closer while I shuddered and cried. He didn't stop fucking or talking and I didn't stop bawling for the entire act. It was so amazingly healing and cathartic. It was like we rewrote over all the bad experiences with a new "first time" memory.

        We are complex creatures, are we not?
        • it's the same reason i love face slapping. i've been abused in previous relationships, but being able to do it with consent and a loving partner is a fantasticly HOT do-over.
          • Face slapping is one of those areas that can be a huge turn on for a sub. However, a Dom needs to assure that slapping a woman’s face is NOT a hard limit set by her during her initial interview. I have encountered many women who have suffered abuse of the type NOT desired, or approved of.

            Once some time ago I was engaged in the training of a woman I will call Wanda. Although Wanda did not set face slapping as a limit that should not explored, she became broken and irrational during play. Play was stopped and we sat to discussed her response. She confided to me that her father slapped her face often, but as an adult she never really thought that this would affect her so emotionally.
            Wanda was traumatized by her childhood recall of her perceived abuse.

            We Doms remain responsible for the trust empowered to us by our submissives. Trust is paramount in any play, or training, as we all know well.

            Enjoy life!

            Master LatexHer
    • Good advice, Natalie. I'm fond of most of the things you describe, as a top and as a potential "victim." Odd, that, perhaps, but there you go--I think you said it best about being wanted so badly that someone refuses to take "no" for an answer, and the huge amount of attention that goes into such an act.

      As a fantasy, it would definitely need to be discussed with partners/lovers/spouses ahead of time. One of my favorite elements is sleeping sex welded to bondage, married to orgasm denial. Basically, waking up tied to the bed, aroused, used for her pleasure (or reversed), then having her stop before I have my own release, perhaps switching to forced face-sitting while she jacks me off just to the point of _keeping_ me hard, then goes back to fucking me, back and forth, until she's done.

      The power-play is a heavy trip, and strap-on dildos can truly intensify that.

      From the opposite end of things, waking up my lover with my cock already inside her, my hand over her mouth, and a husky whisper of, "I'm gonna fuck you until I cum, I'm not going to stop until then, so you better enjoy yourself," is also a heady brew. Her struggles, whimpers, and pleading are all icing on the cake of having my way with her (and yes, the events referred to were agreed upon in advance).

      Definitely *definitely,* to anyone who hasn't tried this before, talk to your play partner in advance, and as Natalie says, if she's not interested, *leave the subject alone.*
  • I think theres nothing wrong with role playing..;-) alittle roughness dont hurt no one...(smile) but this i can say..most people are open to that and some are not....so !! u guys out there..pick your partners right ..if that what your in to..;-)
  • i've been raped, but i don't really associate that with playing out a fantasy -- i believe that what turns you on is what turns you on, and if you can figure a way to consensually enact it without harming anyone, more power to you. go for it.

    i had a guy friend once who had a rape fantasy, and posted it on craigslist. he didn't find someone to play it out with, but he told me that the emails he got from women who thought he was evil just for thinking it were really intense and unpleasant. here he was, trying to find a way to live out something he thought might be hot in a respectful and honest way, and he was getting attacked as if he had actually committed the offense. i was sad to hear that.
    • Hey Leslie,

      I like your attitude (on this and many other posts). You've been through something really horrible yet here you are standing in your space and keeping, advocating even, an open minded approach to life.

      There's such a huge difference between role play and reality. They aren't really associated, are they?

      I had a girlfriend, long ago, who expressed a rape fantasy to me. I hate to say it freaked me right out. Scared me silly. I really had no idea how to respond to her. I'm older and considerably wiser now and understand the difference.
      • thanks, blair. i have just learned to see the difference between fantasy and reality. it doesn't seem like a big deal to me, though some of my lovers have told me that my openness and nonjudgmental attitude is part of my charm ;^)

        somtimes fantasy can encroach on our real-life actions (for instance, i believe that violent video games for kids are bad training if we would like to create a peaceful world), but when you stay conscious about the difference, it's possible to have experiences in a fantasy world that you'd never even want to have in real life.

        and really, rape is at one end of a spectrum of dominance and submission. consensual acting out doesn't freak me out at all, even when it's freaky weird. got to get that stuff out somehow.

        now, when it is not consensual, i have an entirely different take on the situation, of course.
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    What was that caveman movie where the guy makes a few grunting noises, looks at his prey and starts tords her as she scoots away on all fours while looking back with a terrified look; he catches up to her , flips up her flap and mounts her, giving it to her roughly?

    Well, i'm thinking the reason this fantasy seems so hot, all gos back to those good old days : )
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      Quest for Fire, whith Rae Dawn Chong and Ron Perlman.

      Poor Ron. He's so underused as an actor. He was so brilliant in "City of Lost Children" and he didn't know any French!
      • years ago, when i was more involved with the fetish scene, i had a friends boyfriend verbally attack me,saying that people who are into s&m perpetuate violence and domestic abuse.
        i guess some people don't understand the fantasies of others because they've never felt that way,and the rape fantasy is one of those very often misunderstood fetishes.i've never really understood the golden showers thang personally.
        there are always going to be people who want something completely different ever changing gettin wilder and crazier all the time,and there will always be those who will tell them they shouldn't want it.as long as everyone involved is safe and concenting,who am i to judge?
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    Real rape is a VERY bad thing that happens too often to women, often threatening their lives, but I respect all fantasies with willing participants.

    "WILLING": I suppose, in a way, that goes against the definition of rape, but you know what you mean.

    Yet, if it is a woman's fantasy to be raped, still I could never rape in role-play or even dominate a woman. It goes against the way I feel good. A woman says stop and I do so immediately, role-play or not.

    Personally, however, I would enjoy a role reversal.

    In terms of real rape I don't like pain, so that would be off limits. But I'd love to be raped by one or more women. By that I am willing to let you take complete control of my body, potentially socially stripped naked, doing what you like no matter how potentially humiliating, mundane, sexy, silly, or absurd. I’d allow myself to be put under orders dancing or performing any sexual desire oral or otherwise, even allowing myself to be tied up and blindfolded for creative sex acts if that would be fun.

    Not real “rape” but close with a total sexual domination given with permission. Women don't usually do these types of things, but if there were women listening that think they might be into it I think it would be fun to me.
    • On the topic of stopping when a partner/lover says "stop," I find safewords so much more useful for role-play. Regardless of the play scene involved, whether it's daddy/daughter, cop/convict, teacher/student, rapist/victim, siblings, etc, a number one priorety is to establish a safe word for each person, review them before play, and *then* begin. If a scene hinges on abduction, awakening to being molested, or some other form of _in medias res_, having the dom/domina demand, "Do you remember your safeword? Do you want to use it?" is good enough. Not everyone is into bdsm, or role-play, but to accept it for others' pleasure is a sign of wisdom.
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        I refuse to use safewords. I want to be pushed far beyond my bounderies. If I start crying, fuck that, just continue. If I'm bleeding and almost passing out from all the pain. Fuck that, just continue.
        But no one has ever crossed my bounderies, they almost don't exist anyway.
        • interesting, but i think the rape fantasy is one scene where safe words should definitely be in place. whether they are used or not is, of course, up to you. for me safe words allow me to scream, struggle, hit, kick, say NO, beg and plead for Him to stop, and everything else in between that makes it more 'real' for both of us and yet allows an out if it gets too intense either physically or emotionally. but that's just me...
          • Thanks for putting that so well, SubbyGirl. If one chooses not to use one's safeword, that's one thing, but not to have one in the first place pretty much ruins a role-play session if one has to constantly stop and ask, "You want me to stop" a zillion times. If one chooses not to have a safeword, and wants to be taken beyond one's limits, how does one find those limits? How does one stop, if trust breaks down? Dark territory, that.
  • I am so relieved i found this website. I used to freak out a bit when I got to thinking about things I have done and stiil want to do. I love sex, sex w/ my hubby, sex w/ other guys, sex w/ girls, spanking, being submissive, wanting to roleplay the rapescene, wax, etc. Actually on here I get to be my true self, no pretenses and I am almost normal on here! lol. Thank y'all for just being you and being open about it! It really makes me realise that everyone is different but i don't have to be repressed! Thanks again, Cressa
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    I have never done it before, but I'd love to try. The problem with it is, I think, is that I'm a great actrice. If I want to get raped, I'd cry and slap and struggle the ENTIRE time. I think most men want you to give in at some point, at least.
    No, wait, I CAN do that, but only if the fucking is EXTREMELY good (deep&hard).
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      Nothin wrong with that!!! most men might wanna give in, find one that WON'T!! Being a great actrice is a leg up. it can get you and your partner deep into the roleplay and mood.
  • I have a rape fantasy and I have acted it out with more than one partner. Usually it is a date-rape scenario where we go out, have a good time, end up back at the house making out, and he starts to undress me and I don't want to let him. Then it's a game of me squirming to get away and him getting rough enough to hold me down. Him saying things like "You asked for it." or "You're not leaving without giving me some pussy." Things like that........With both men I told them *how* to hold me without hurting me, and that little trick where if you pull *all* of the hair at once it doesn't hurt as much as if you pull smaller amounts of it. We figured out safe-words to use throughout the ordeal - and it was spectacular every time I've done it.
  • I've played out a rape fantasy, though it was unplanned. We were both very in-the-moment, and sex went from being something I wanted to something (fantasy) non-consensual. In retrospect it's surprising how into our roles we got, given that my partner is a pretty gentle person, and I'm usually good at using my safeword when I need/ought to. I dunno where she was at the time in her head, but I *almost* completely forgot that it wasn't real, and the only way I knew I hadn't forgotten was that I didn't try to actually injure her (and vice-versa, which is good). It was too real and I just don't want to go there again. Interestingly enough, my partner felt exactly the same way. I can imagine it being the right kind of intense for some, but as for me I prefer other flavors of intense.
  • Hey Simon - I happened to have written this down earlier today for someone...may as well cut and paste! This is the real way it played out, save the very end. Best.Sex.Ever. It was like 6 years ago and I still think about it while im fucking myself every now and again.

    I was in "quarantine" (heehee, a room made outta hanging sheets of plastic from the ceiling), and an super-evil MP forced me to strip at gunpoint (the M1A), narrating, telling me to pull away my tattered clothing scraps slowly, while he watched thru the walls. When I was done, he (wearing a full radiation suit and mask), grabbed me by the hair and dragged me across the floor to the decontamination shower (we had a glass-roomed shower with a full bench in it, and 3 heads! 2 were detachable, and we had all 3 going at once.). He pushed me in, and proceeded to roughly scour my body in scalding hot water until I was all red and scratched up. He was screaming at me the whole time, calling me a dirty girl, and telling me that I could've killed someone with my carelessness in not reporting as ordered - they had to drag me out of my house. When I was clean enough, he grabbed my by the arm and threw me on the ground outside the stall. He threw a towel at me, took his mask off, and just glared at me, watching as I delicately dried off, trying not to make the pain worse. When I was done, he took my towel and marched me downstairs to a special room. He said it was where they do "interrogations". There were chains on the wall, with locks on, and it was dark except for a low red light, so I couldn't tell what the other stuff lying around on tables was. There was a cot in the middle of the room, and a chair. He walked me by the throat, pushing my back up against a wall. He grabbed one of the chains and wrapped it around my arm really tight, then padlocked it so I couldn't get away! He asked me why I didn't leave the city when I heard the announcements on the bullhorn like everyone else, but I didn't tell him anything! I didn't want him to find out that it was my family that made the dirty bomb. Truthfully, I didn't expect to survive, but I happened to be in the basement when it went off, so I just hid out. Sometimes I would tell him something ridiculous, like I was too busy organizing my naked photos of his mom and must've missed the announcement. He didn't like that. He backhanded me a few times, and let me hang by the wrist for a sec when I fell down. He picked me back up by the throat again, and screamed at me for being a smart-ass. He said he should quiet me down, since I was such a loud bitch. He took the chain off the wall and used the other end to wrap around my neck. He held the end with one hand and my hair with the other, pushing me onto my knees on the concrete, and shoved his cock into my mouth. He still had the big rifle on his back and a 45 strapped to his chest, so I decided not to bite. He made me go really hard and fast, and I was choking and gasping for air, with tears all down my face. If I stopped or pulled away, he'd hit me in the face with his 45, then push my head back down. He said I'm a whore, and I suck really good dick, and that they'd hang onto me so they could all share me, instead of killing me right away. He pulled me up by the leash, and kissed me really deeply, but not in a nice way, then spit in my face and pushed me onto the cot. He told me to get on my knees like a dog, so I did. First he spit on my pussy to get it wet, then licked it for a while. I told him thank you for going easy on me, and he just laughed. He took an old revolver out of a drawer with a pretty small barrel and just a tiny sight, and shoved it into my pussy! I screamed, it hurt, then he went slowly. I couldn't help it, because the sight was rubbing my g-spot, so I came, crying and choking on tears. He pulled it out and threw it to the side. He said I was a stupid cunt for getting the gun all dirty, and he'd need to teach me a lesson. He used some tie-downs to pin me to the cot, face-down. He would spank me, then cut me a little with his knife, then lick my asshole, then spank me more. He had a little vibrator in his pocket, and put it in my ass. He put it on low, letting me get used to it, while he took turns between taking pictures and jerking off. He turned it up a bit at a time until I was cumming. After, he pulled it out and shoved his dick in instead. He fucked me for what seemed like forever. I came two more times, in between the hitting and cutting he was doing while riding me, and then he came inside me. He made me suck his dick again, and it tasted funny, but it was better than death I suppose. He said he was done with me, that I was all used up and he should just kill me. He tied me up on the chair, and used a little crop to smack my titties and stomach and legs and feet. Sometimes he'd play with my pussy a little, other times he'd hit me with the rifle really hard. Eventually he left, leaving me tied up for what was probably about 8 hours or so, I fell asleep on and off. He came back in the morning, untied me, walked me outside the compound and into the forest (still naked). He said I did a good service to my country, and they'd repay me by letting me die now. He reached down and gave me a long, deep, slow kiss, and I didn't even feel him slitting my throat. I saw him pull away, blood dripping down his chin, smirking. Then nothing.

    At least I never squealed....
  • fantasy is daydream and daydream is wish fulfillment
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      I would have to agree. Being a believer in the loa, I can't help but think if you spend too much time dreaming of these scenarios that they just might happen one day. The mind is very powerful!

      But that would be a good thing? : /
      • read The Fountainhead
        • never mind, don't waste your time. yes its a good thing. green light.
          • :-)

            I'll daydream all I want, because I know what I put ENERGY into is not that, so I don't worry. I've already had worse happen.

            Green lights are good! Thanks Kam!
            • And thanks Rik for sharing your thoughts. I think if you put too much energy into worrying your fantasy may become reality, you're already wasting your time, indeed. Worry is useless. And remember, that particular scenario was already acted out, save death! The reality is real, so it's already been manifested! No need for worry!
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    My 2cents..
    Negotiate limits before hand. when your bottom feels she/he's been heard and has respect, gettin close to those limits will be more healthy and fun. then, create some suprises, rape fantasy has a lot to do with being shocked and controlled by power, even if its a gleam in your eye that you truly mean business, or a grawl or somthing that makes us feel like " oh god, what have I gotten myself into!! !" within the limits of course!!

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